Pure North S’Energy Foundation

I have a concern about this company. I am interested as to why these guys are useing Calgary Counselling Centre as a means to promote Vitamin Pills. This company comes in last august, Puts on a 10 minute display of crap of how north amarican people are fat and they take our blood for tests, and give us vitamin pills stateing that he is going to help us live a long healthy lifestyel. Free pills is interesting. However; Two months later, a different Gentle man comes in, from the same company, sets up the same display, says the exact same rhetoric about how the food industry in North Amarica is making people fat. And that vegetables are chemically induced, And they have developed Multi vitamin pills to help make fat people skinny again.. One Docter seemed to want me to pay them money via credit card each month for there product.

Does this seem bogus to anyone?

I feel as though these guys are bilking money of those with Low I.Qs.

This post was submitted by Kevin Miller.

  1. T. Mar, 06 March, 2012

    I know a number of people who’ve gone through the program, none of whom have had to pay anything (not even for removal of mercury amalgams). They have received very good care (albeit fairly rushed these days as they are cranking through a lot of patients) In my opinion, Pure North is legitimately trying to demonstrate the benefit of supplements/detoxification on the health of Canadians. There is absolutely no pressure for anyone to participate – they have plenty of participants already. As I understand it, they may be moving to a model that requires some payment, but I suspect it will be subsidized.

  2. Florence C, 08 March, 2012

    Also have direct experience with this company. It promotes lifestyle changes and offers some supplements to address key nutritional deficiencies that are common in their patients, verified by blood work, of course. They have a team of 4 doctors – one of which has a 4-5 year waiting lists, they are considered international experts – as well as some naturopathic doctors. They work with nurses and health care professionals and are leading the way for a new approach to health and disease prevention. They have 7000 patients and have 10 years of data to show that their approach to improving the health status of their patients is effective. The supplements they recommend are: high quality multi-vitamin, pro-biotics, Vitamin D and Omega 3. Nothing radical. They make it free because they are backed by a philanthropist who is passionate about wellness and believes he can show that self-care is the future of health-care. And indeed healthy eating and active living are powerful preventative medicine.

  3. Kevin Miller, 14 March, 2012

    Thank you for your input.

  4. Jermiah, 28 March, 2012

    Hi,
    I’m a university student who has business background and a minor in psychology. So, to answer your question why might someone be ” hocking” multivitamins at a Calgary counseling center, the most logical answer would be that some psychological abnormalities such as depression, bi-polar disorder, and body dis morphic disorders might have a neurological psychological component as well as a the obvious behavioral and cognitive deficits. I think by selling multivitamins they are trying to provide you an integrative approach to mental health by ensuring that your physical health is not contributing to any psychological disorders, and that way you will benefit more from the behavioral and cognitive therapy since your physical health wont be a contributing factor. Next, I recently joined pure north synergy and was received free vitamins, however as of late they have been asking for a payment of $28 dollars for 3month supply of vitamins. So, 4 payments to cover a whole years supply comes to $112 dollars (tax incl) or $9.33 per month of supply if you break it down. That I believe is very reasonable price for vitamins, as it includes vitamin D, green drinks, vitamin-c, multivitamins, fish oils, fiber bills, and pro-biotic pills, and all under the supervision of an Medical physician. I think it wise to question anything that sounds suspicious, but do realize that this a foundation that in the beginning were not charging a single dime from participants of this program. I think they have come to realize that in order to promote their mandate of ensuring that all people live healthier and active lifestyles that the cost of taking on all these participants might deplete the trust, so they have to incur some sort of minimal cost structure to ensure that doesn’t happen. Therefore, asking participants to pay $28 dollars for 3 month supply seems like a huge sacrifice but it really isn’t so. In fact, I’m sure if participants were having financial difficulties they would continue to provide these supplements free of charge.

  5. Jermiah, 28 March, 2012

    I do apologize for the spelling and grammar in advance. But I do hope that the message helps somewhat to alleviate any concerns that you might have.

  6. david, 13 April, 2012

    They have changed their system,and made prepackaged vitamin packs for ease of use. they ship these,three months at at time,and this is where the new cost comes in. they only ask 25$ for shipping fees. these vitamins are worth quite a bit more than that,not to mention the 10$ grand of work they can do with ones dental,or the heavy metal chelation therapies,etc.

  7. Sandra, 12 June, 2012

    I’ve been invited to participate through a not-for-profit agency as well. Free health and wellness program with assessment, vitamins, supplements and education built in? Just pay shipping? Sounds way too good to be true, but I need some serious life changes so the time is right to hear what they had to say anyway. I kind of expected that at the end they’d be pushing me for cash, but I wasn’t expecting to hear $25. That works for me. So, I’ve been researching for the last two hours and your post was the only thing I could find that questions their motives. Here’s what I found:

    The founder is Allan Markin, who is part-owner of the Flames and a huge philanthropist. He tripled the Herald’s Christmas Fund last year, because their story about CUPS “brought a tear to my eye”. He has a wing named after him at UofC because he donated mega-millions to help them build a Health Center. He just retired as Chairman for a big oil and gas company and the program started there with his own employees. He believes that if people are as healthy as they can be, they are way better equipped to perform physically and cognitively.

    From what I gather, I’m guessing he’s “targeting” not-for-profit agencies for a reason. They serve the most vulnerable and the least likely to afford pricey assessments and the organic supplements and vitamins that follow. My own Doctor has a private clinic and I’ve never been there because I already know I can’t afford it. So, although I was kicking myself for signing up, now I’m really hopeful. This could be just what I need and a huge opportunity to turn things around. I’ll give it a go and let you know. 🙂

  8. Diane, 03 July, 2012

    This truly is an amazing program, and though I can understand one’s skepticism at first (because let’s face it, nothing this good for us could possibly be free right?) , I just wanted you to know that my husband and I have been partcipating 5 years and we have nothing but praise for the program.
    With the annual results of our health testing, along with the high quality vitamins and supplements that you get (free other than a minimal fee for the cost of shipping, at least right now is how it works) , we have made some very positive changes to our health.
    Thank you Al Markin for this Pure North program.

  9. Hg Merc, 13 July, 2012

    Here is the deal with the program.

    Markin is of the belief that mercury is the source of every problem and Vitamin D is the cure for all ailments. He supports chelations and dental procedures to remove mercury from the system and mega doses of vitamins and supplements to boost everything else. He is spending his millions to “save the world”. He donates millions to many of these charities but in return they have to accept his treatments.

    There is no real scam in this program. It is his millions and how he chooses to spend is his choice.

    The only real concern with this program is with the lack of disclosure about the conditional funding that he provides to these charitable organisations. Mustard Seeds, Alberta Adolescent Recovery Center, Calgary Counselling Center and others each have received millions from Mr. Markin. In return, they have to subject their clients to these free treatments. There is no due diligence conducted by these agencies. They have been bought. He has employed tens of doctors who are required to follow Mr. Markin’s prescription. Mr. Markin is not medically trained yet these doctors follow medical direction from him. For example, while Canadian medical guideline recommends 400-1000IU, Mr. Markin suggests people take 10,000 to 20,000 IU per day. Any doctors or medical researchers who do not follow his direction are fired or fundings cut.

    So my advice, if you happen to be beneficiary of his programs, there are some really good part of the program but also be responsible and do not be afraid to say NO to the quacky side of the treatments. Don’t let his doctors and nurses bully you into a treatment you do not want or need.

  10. david, 16 July, 2012

    they have never bullied me,and i research everything that i take very vigorously. He is righjt on the money,and obviously knows that the health industry is big business,and are not out to cure people,or they would be out of business. People are too lazy to do their own research,and seem to blindlky beleive everything. They will live with their own illusions because it is comfortable this way. If you really want to know if this is right, then get off yer ass, and do some real research, not just read an article. there is so much disinfo out there, that you need to be very thorough.

  11. david, 16 July, 2012

    It has also been shown that only 2 percent of all diseases are due to Dna abnormalities. The rest can all be cured, or at least prevented with the right diet.

  12. david, 16 July, 2012

    These also include most especially mental illnesses such as adhd, bipolar disorder, and physical diseases. ETC.

  13. david, 16 July, 2012

    I have had about ten thousand dollars worth of free dental work,as well. This program is amazing,and has made such a difference to me. The only thing that i question, and avoid taking is their fiber supplements.

  14. john, 01 August, 2012

    I have cavities on all my teeth. I’m going to get them done in silver and get the billionary quack to pay for them in white. Do you think this will work? It’s half the price for silver.

  15. Mel Sherwood, 23 August, 2012

    I have been researching and writing in-house studies of vitamin, mineral and herbal formulations since 1984. The formula of Pure North’s Vital 2 Platinum multivitamins is extremely good, better than any other Canadian multivitamin. If it were to be sold in Canadian retail stores the price would have to be between 49 and 59 CAD per bottle. It is remarkable that Pure North S’Energy is providing this highly superior product at little to no expense to participants.

  16. Sandra, 07 September, 2012

    I last posted on June 12 and I promised an update so here it is. I received the results from my initial bloodwork, and the pkg was impressive, including reports from both the Calgary and Chicago labs. My numbers were concerning ( I knew they would be) ie: my Vitamin D level was pretty much non-existent. I hate swallowing pills so I can’t say I’m taking every single vitamin each day, but I do my best and I am seeing results. They are not all hallelulah and bright lights, but I can see differences that are significant for me. I have more energy later into the day, my bowel health is the best it has ever been and my fingernails are strong and growing like crazy! I’ve had my follow-up appt and I won’t need to go back for a year. I shared my results with my doctor and his office called me Friday. I can’t wait for my appt with him – he’s obviously concerned about the lab results, but I think he will happy with my current regimen. I’m a believer.

  17. Diane, 11 September, 2012

    In response to the July 13th post, I highly doubt that the charities who are the beneficiaries of Mr. Markin’s generosity “have to accept his treatments”. He is excited about the program there’s no doubt about that, but the Doctors are professionals! They are the ones who ultimately deal with the program participants.
    As far as I know, there are always information sessions explaining the program to the interested participants, and participant authorization is required prior to starting on the program.
    I’m not on expert on addictions but I don’t believe that just because they are dealing with some serious health issues, that they don’t have a brain to think for themselves.
    The program is not a magic pill – the supplements/vitamins/ etc. are just a small part of a healthy lifestyle, that each participant must be committed to.

  18. sandra p, 08 October, 2012

    Kevin, it appears from your grammar and spelling mistakes that perhaps you need some nutritional bumping, perhaps to increase YOUR own IQ. Firstly this is a voluntary project, the products are not from the physicians own company. No one is forcing you or anyone else to take the vitamins that are offered to clients in good faith. This research is being performed to better everyone’s health, you might want to take advantage of it.

  19. aaron, 20 December, 2012

    I’ve been on the pure north program now for a couple of months and my libido is through the roof!

  20. Kevin, 28 December, 2012

    First of all. You guys must think I am incredibly Naive to even believe such garbage. Secondly. Sandra, I find the recent paragraph rather disturbing. I have never read so much garbage about how amazing any such pill can be.

  21. Brett, 15 February, 2013

    I am currently a part of this program and you are way out to lunch. I have not had to pay one cent since I started, which has been over a year now. I get free blood tests, you name it. I personally think that you need to do a little more research before you try to aimlessly bash a company in which you know nothing about. Plus, I am almost positive they have never told me their aim was to make people skinny, because last time I checked, skinny doesn’t reflect health, proper nutrition reflects health. Here’s a challenge for you: Be grateful for the things that are freely being given to you. They don’t have to give anything to anyone and the fact that they are, is a blessing. P.s. you’re an idiot.

  22. BrianYYC, 19 February, 2013

    Kevin – You have been NLP’d! Neuro Linguistic Progamming by the media! Google it! You cannot open your mind to new things, because you have been brainwashed to believe that the so called “healthcare system” actually works. Let me be frank with you…we DO NOT have healthcare in North America…we have “disease and accident care”. Accident care, well…we do the best we can to repair people. Disease is a total disaster. Medical errors, pharmaceuticals, hospital infections, and other unproven medical interventions kill 195,000 people in the US alone…EVERY YEAR! Cancer is through the roof. 60 to 70% of physicians in a McGill survey would not take chemotherapy or radiation. Follow the SSSSSSSS! From university medical colleges to pharmaceutical companies to medical equipment manufacturers to big unions to political intervention and, of course, the media…they ALL want the status quo, and they will do everything at their disposal to make sure it stays that way. Now go do some research. Start with a dictionary!

  23. BrianYYC, 19 February, 2013

    That should have been $$$$$$$$! I bought a new keyboard and the $ came up like S’s! It’s going back tomorrow. Even computer stuff is suspect!

  24. Kevin Miller, 28 February, 2013

    Now brian. If the aim is not to make people skinny. What would the the sole purpose of selling vitamin pills? Not only that. What was the purpose of saing that a third of amaricans are over wieght?

  25. Kevin Miller, 28 February, 2013

    When I said Brain. I was aiming that comment at brett.

  26. Kevin Miller, 28 February, 2013

    Who said anything about bashing? I seem to recall stating I was rather concerned. When it comes to blood test. I have gotten free blood tests in the past. And have never needed a third party opinion on what my blood levels are at.
    You may may wish to be a bit more discreet and careful when you are typing considering the fact that we are now on the internet. However,I have to admite, some of this shit you guys are saying, can be found amuzing to myself and others.

  27. Kevin, 13 July, 2013

    Oh yes. I’m finding many of your posts rather comtradicting. First you are saying it costs $25. Than someone said they get their pills for free. Was at the dropin centre back in March. And noticed that you guys were handing them out for free. Why, I want my money back if you are going to do that. And I don’t want my credit information you guys asked for back. I have worked for the flames and have never once heard about Allan markin. I will double check again with people with The flames organisation to see if anyone knows who Dr. Allan Markin is.

  28. Kevin, 13 July, 2013

    Oh yes. I’m finding many of your posts rather comtradicting. First you are saying it costs $25. Than someone said they get their pills for free. Was at the dropin centre back in March. And noticed that you guys were handing them out for free. Why, I want my money back if you are going to do that. And I don’t want my credit information you guys asked for back. I have worked for the flames and have never once heard about Allan markin. I will double check again with people with The flames organisation to see if anyone knows who Dr. Allan Markin is.

  29. Edith, 10 September, 2013

    Maybe this will clear up the costs. I have been in the program since January 2013. In 2012 there was a minimal cost for shipping. When I joined that changed and they now charge $600.00 a year for the program. None of which can be claimed through any medical coverage you may have. They are a non-profit organization. The $600.00 covers a portion of what it costs them to do all the blood work, provide the vitamins and supplements, chelation, and follow-up blood work. Since I started they do not provide the greens, glutathione or vitamin C so this will become a cost for you above the $600.00 per year. It has been beneficial and is not a scam. However I have found that what I was told in the presentation and what I signed up for is not quite the same with the changes, added costs and lack of receipts for reimbursement through benefit plans.

  30. Benjamin Clifford, 03 October, 2013

    Pure North is definitely a scam. Markin (The President) is a very wealthy individual using his wealth to buy something most can not afford… power. He does it under the guise of doing good for the community. But let us not forget these millionaire types, even when they do things for the good of the community, are always thinking about profits and power as well.

    Markin has collected an enormous amount of data on participants in the Pure North Program. Data correlating blood types and deficiencies with diseases and etc. With all the data he has collected he is hoping to advise the government on health related issues. The last hirings to Pure North have been statisticians to sift through the data. Markin will push the government to adopt a more right wing approach to health care along the lines of privatization, or whatever his capitalistic mind wants to pursue.

    Afterall, Pure North now would seem like a reputable company with an enormous amount of knowledge about the Canadian Health care sector. He is setting it up so that Pure North can be a policy advisor to the government on healthcare related issues. And all it took to get particpants to sign up was giving them dirt cheap multivitamins that most doctors would argue are bad for you. My doctor told me to get off of the pills because they did more damage then good.

    A homeless person I know swears that the feelings they get from taking certain Pure North Pills are similar to that of the addiction they struggled with on the drug speed for many years.

  31. Colleen, 06 October, 2014

    There will always be someone saying something negative. All we can do is try the program. I hate taking vitamins but am willing to get help for myself and at least try for one year. I see too many people being prescribed too many pills. Why do we think that doctors have all the answers, if that were so, they would be able to cure all of the diseases popping up. We give too much of our power away when we put all of our trust in doctors, just because they have a degree. I’m not saying they dont serve a purpose, however people rely on the docs too much and they are getting burnt out. We need to take our health into our own hands and be responsible in helping ourselves as well. Some of you need to chill out, just because you have had a negative experience, doesn’t mean everyone will. I think ones attitude is really important here. Much of the program is about lifestyle changes, using different tools to ones advantage. We can do all the right things in life, try to be as healthy as we can, but when it is our time to die, nothing is going to stop it, it’s inevitable.

  32. Deb, 10 October, 2014

    All things said and done we as individuals are responsible for our own health. Im trying the program and researching further into suggested protocols to meet my needs. Thankyou to Mr Markham for his involvement.

  33. anonymous, 07 November, 2014

    Pure north charges people 70$ a month now … for people who make over a certain amount of money a year … I like what the program offers … but i don’t think basing your health off of how many vitamins you take is any better than not taking any vitamins … the program is good if your a unhealthy slob.. or just wanna simple check… but taking vitamins by the boat load daily is a unhealthy practice. The rich guy who runs this program has an agenda to keep so don’t try and think he is saving lives here… but it is a nice program …. I loved it when it was free those boxes of multi vitamins lasted me 2 years I had 4 boxes and I paid 25 dollars .. but i just recently phoned and made a appointment to be part of the program again … and they want to charge me 70 a month .. via visa …. I don’t think I’ll be joining … I don’t take vitamins daily … I could probably spend 700 a year and have my vitamins I want and need … plus I can go to my doctor walk in or whatever and get my blood checked for free… go back in after a week and let him tell you how all your levels are doing …. do the program if you want … and Mr markin is very accredited philanthropist. But like every billionaire. .. it’s about the dough, there is a agenda he has … but we can’t stop his agenda. He wants to get government on board with private health care I believe his purpose is … but who’s to say that’s bad .

  34. Brett, 08 November, 2014

    To the previous comment:
    Judging by the elementary school equivalent grammar, I would not trust a word that comes out of your mouth. If you’re going to comment on a public forum, try and show some credibility.

  35. Judy, 04 January, 2015

    Ladies & Gentlemen From a political point of view we must understand the huge strain that the cost of healthcare is in Alberta. The fact is a visionary dedicated his life to be proactive and educate people preventative measures, is sincerely a gift to us. We have “free will” Gratitude is an attitude that we own, make a choice to appreciate or let go for others to learn. ThankYou Allan Markin for your leadership in health & wellness awareness and education.

  36. Grim, 26 March, 2015

    Pure North is just another snake oil sham preying upon people’s fear of mortality, their ignorance of science and the wish for a silver bullet to cure everything. All alternative health care is full of contradictions. I thought the current fad of coconut oil cured everything or was it essential oils or trike?

  37. kathleen angel, 05 November, 2015

    well i’ve found many of the posts interesting and I will give my own comments. I have always been knowledgeable about healthy eating and healthy foods and how many calories we are supposed to take in and how important exercise is all my life and I have loved working out, in a gym, or nature by hiking etc. I’m now 53 years old now and very overweight. Why? no one seems to know. It’s genetic that’s for sure. My family doctor says oh keep doing what you are doing you living a healthy lifestyle! Well it doesn’t feel like it. Although I worked out 5-6 days a week hard, either weight lifting or cardio classes an hour long and tracking my calories and eating a healthy diet the weight continues to pile one. It’s harder and harder to work out now, my joints hurt, i’m feeling depressed, no energy, poor sleep. My family doctor has runs my blood work and says “all is good”. I know in my heart and head that’s not the case. It can’t be, I can feel it in so many ways. Something just is not right.

    So went to pure north Monday night for the $99 16 point blood work. Sure enough even 3 days after the tests were done they have called me (today). That’s 2.5 weeks before my next appointmentbefore my next appointment. They called me with one of the results. It’s a problem, it’s a serious problem. I had asked my fam doctor to test me for what Pure North did and my family doctor said the results were fine (this was 3 months ago), however, her test does NOT go into the levels that Pure North does.
    I don’t have all the results yet from the other tests Pure North has conducted but I can assure you I am grateful for confirmation of what I believed was the case as now I can take serious action before my life is cut way too short.
    I trusted my doctor and alberta health’s testing but never could understand why in the last 5 years my health has deterioriated at a rapid rate now I know. Go or don’t go. Participate or don’t participate. $99 for the 16 point blood work is worth it in my opinion. Don’t know if I will stay with the program but you can bet I sure want to hear what they have to say. If they make money while saving my life it’s fine by me!! better than making money and watching me die. Wishing all of you great health because without that we have nothing. Cheers.

  38. Richard, 21 March, 2016

    My few cents into this conversation. My wife is sick. Has fibromyalgia for the last twenty years. Have tried all alternative treatments on this planet. No effect. Last Feb(2015) joined Pure North Platinum program $2000 via visa a year. Was taking all blood tests,vitamins, minerals and so called Tenant treatment (one free), next ones $50 a session. None of the treatment or vitamins, blood test could be claimed through benefit plan. She was following their recommended protocol to the letter for 12 months and it made no difference at all. It seems that all those extra vitamins are nothing than expensive urine. If you want you can request exactly same blood tests from your family doctor and have them done for free. Sorry but I don’t believe this program works. Every year they are asking for more money. This program started as not for profit but it seems now it is all about money/profit.

  39. Mike Kemp, 01 June, 2016

    This is the third year for me with Pure North. Solved many issues I was experiencing. BTW..Richard, the reason they are charging more for their services now is directly linked to the crash in Alberta’s economy and Mr. Markin’s financial ties with the oil industry (or what’s left of it).

  40. Halfslack, 19 August, 2016

    B.S. The company charges the same fat rate they did when the company started years ago.

  41. Paige, 23 September, 2016

    Came across this forum in my research about the company. I have my BSc in Kinesiology and am a 24 yr old female. A coworker (48yrs old) who is a big believer in alternative medicine/naturopaths told me about the program. I eat a mostly vegetarian/vegan diet (I am a little flexible here and there). I feel like I am healthier than the average individual- I exercise regularly and eat a mostly plant based diet. I have taken multivitamins and supplemented vitamin D and B12 – often finding that I just get neon pee. I know that not eating meat can mean I might be missing out on these vitamins (and Iron- but I have so much spinach/kale I’m certain I’m fine there). I mostly decided to look into the program to check in on those levels as I have experienced some depression/lethargy. The initial $99 assessment involved height/weight. Blood pressure readings (mine was 100/70-low but ok).They gave me a few weeks worth of sample packs to try with omega, probiotic, vitamin C, “cell protector” and their own formula multivitamin. Seems so far I haven’t had neon pee and I feel pretty good. All these vitamins seem excessive but my mood and energy seem a little boosted. Wondering if this is due to the zinc which is a mood enhancer. I believe we can get most of what we need from proper nutrition but there can still be gaps. Living in Vancouver (very rainy) I could definitely use a vitamin D supplement. We will see at the follow-up what is recommended. I don’t see myself signing up for their “platinum” programs but I’ll buy some of the vitamins a la carte. Worth a shot for your health!

  42. Sheri, 17 April, 2017

    If you add up the cost of their vitality pack separately you will find that the price of 70$ a month us quite reasonable. When I first started my amalgams desperately needed to be replaced and my mercury levels were quite high. I couldn’t afford to do this so I was very grateful for Pure North as it was all taken care of. It’s now 6 years later and I am still taking their supplements and continue to be in great health so I for one and I know many others who are very grateful as well. They have to charge now, it can’t happen for free forever.

  43. Rosemarie, 09 July, 2018

    Pure North is definitely legit-Have used their program for a couple of years. The staff includes doctors and nurses; the vitamins are great. It took me about 2 months to begin feeling more energetic. The cost of the supplements is 50% of what it costs elsewhere and the pkg includes bloodwork and time with their doctors.Their goal is to educate us about our health and to use prevention to reduce illness and declining health. They have offered a program to non-profits to help their clients benefit from having access to supplements they would otherwise be unable to afford.

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